Shabbat shalom.

Only comments connected to the subject at hand will be accepted. Thanks for your understanding.

Secondly Mo, you don’t know anything about me, or who I am, or what I do… so stop acting like you do, and grow up a little.

With that being said.. excellent run down, it gives me many new things to read. Thanks a bunch.

here is a story about a police officer who nearly lost his eye to a glass bottle.

out of the 200 wounded in amona, 80 were police officers.

it is just a tad disingenous to suggest that they were purely engaging in non-violent civil disobedience. the video of the kids being beaten inside the houses follows the battle that took place outside before the cops even got inside the houses. by that point they’d already been pushed beyond the breaking point (which, in israel, is already not so difficult).

also, no one knows precisely happened the day rachel corrie died. that her death happened within weeks of several other activists being beaten and shot indicates that it may not have been an accident at all, and the fact that the second occupant of the bulldozer never testified and that the idf coached the driver through his entire testimony does not, in my book, equate to an “open and shut case” as it may for you.

if the israeli authorities can do the awful things they seemed to have done to the jews in amona, imagine what they’re capable of when their opponents are not zionists.

Do you know how many times I’ve been in this situation for excerising my legitimate right to protest? When you kept silent, you sanctioned this.

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However, for all of your talk about civil disobedience, it seems that though nearly all of the people there may have met your definition of Civil Disobedience, your are considering them all to have been legitimately treated as physical attackers. I disagree. From all that I know (listening to personal accounts, and radio, as well as the traditional news sources) 99.9% of the people there were resisting passively. And nearly got killed for it.

And I do not think this is comparable to Rachel Corrie. She was one person who decided to lie down in front of a tractor that whose driver (did | didn’t) see her. Here we have hundreds of people who held hands outside and inside houses, and were trambled with horses, and beaten repeatedly when they presented no threat. Different cases.

you completely misrepresented my post. i did not say that the people in amona had it coming to them. not in the slightest. i said police brutality is an issue which effects all people, from the left wing to the right, from arabs to jews. it’s a shame that the right wing is now crying victimhood when the left has been screaming about police brutality for a decade. the right has never stood up for the left; when rachel corrie was killed they made jokes about rachel corrie pancakes; when tom hurndall was shot in the face they said he had it coming. i’m entirely opposed to police brutality and what the cops did in amona is unjustifiable. but the right should keep in mind that they were breaking the law; they physically interfered to prevent the enactment of state policy; and that they shouldn’t be surprised that they were attacked. they should consider themselves lucky. if they were left wingers, they’d have been getting shot with rubber bullets, stun grenades, and tear gas from the outset.

that’s not “you had it coming.” that’s “what did you expect?”

the story about my arrest in nyc was to demonstrate my personal experience with police brutality.